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August 2, 2008 11:28 AM PDT

Fraud or not fraud, part 2: But what about Apple's iPhone battery time claims?

Posted by Kevin Ho
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The whole Freeiphoneswap.com process (see part 1) got me worrying and thinking about fraud. And, with frustrations about the iPhone's battery common among bloggers and friends alike, you know there is a lawsuit looming out there as some plaintiff-side law firm will want to take Apple to task for allegedly misrepresenting the iPhone's battery life (both the first generation and 3G). Whether these would-be rentseekers have a claim a jury would buy will be seen.

But thinking about it, Apple says this about the iPhone's battery life:

Talk time: Up to 5 hours on 3G Up to 10 hours on 2G

Standby time: Up to 300 hours

Internet use: Up to 5 hours on 3G; Up to 6 hours on Wi-Fi

Video playback: Up to 7 hours

Audio playback: Up to 24 hours

All of this with a whole bunch of footnoted caveats about testing being one pre-production models in May 2008 with this feature turned off, that one turned on, and that fact that no animals were harmed. But did they take into account all these 2.0 applications? The fact that people would be using their iPhones to do a lot more than talk, surf the new slowly, email or text? Probably not. All of these footnotes are probably enough of a caveat, c-y-a claim for Apple to argue that they never intended for anyone to rely on these estimates or that they made a warranty about battery life, i.e., no fraud, false promise or negligent misrepresentation, essentially, buyer beware. And with that, it'd be hard to muster a claim of fraud. In any case, legal or otherwise, Apple's claims about battery life didn't seem amount to very much. Just in case, these are the elements of fraud in California:

The tort of deceit or fraud requires: (a) misrepresentation (false representation, concealment, or nondisclosure); (b) knowledge of falsity (or 'scienter'); (c) intent to defraud, i.e., to induce reliance; (d) justifiable reliance; and (e) resulting damage. Engalla v. Permanente Medical Group, Inc., 15 Cal.4th 951, 974 (1997).

Apple has, however, put this page up with tips and suggestions about extending battery time, is this all they're going to do? Well, the jury's out on that one.

Kevin Ho is a San Francisco attorney and the owner of a brand new iPhone. He'll be writing about the experience for the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by Motyoj August 2, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
I don't have an iPhone (yet), but I think there's been clearly too much coverage about them. They're only a phone for Christ's sake, with a few extra features. I do think that they're too expensive; along with the 2 year contract, but if you want one, buy one. If not, then don't. Other phones offer different features and different contracts. They all have good and bad points. Nothing is perfect. Cell phones are great in an emergency but otherwise, I wish they'd never been invented. I'm sick of nearly getting into car accidents with people not paying attention and hollering into them while I'm trying to enjoy a meal in a restaurant. Bleh...
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by bnordsan2 August 2, 2008 8:39 PM PDT
You got it right in the first 5 words and wrong in the second sentence. You can't honestly comment on an iPhone if you haven't used one. Second, it was A GREAT DEAL MORE THAN A PHONE. It is a computer in your pocket. They are very reasonably priced for what they do. If you need just a phone, buy 'just a phone' no an iPhone. I had the 2g iphone on the first day and paid the $600 that became $500 a few months later. I had the iPhone 3g also on the first day and I go no where without them. My wife has the 2g one now.
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by rapier1 August 3, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
Pretty much all the phones available on the market now qualify as computers. People have been running linux and other full fledged operating systems on PDAs and phones for years before the jesusPhone came out.
by cha_yong August 3, 2008 5:12 AM PDT
Great article! What I found was that turning of 3G made the biggest difference to me, not it actually last the whole day. It's great especially if you don't need 3G internet which I don't I use Wifi mainly for internet access.

Here is a list of iPhone tips that I found interesting http://www.tiphub.com/82_Great_tips_for_using_your_new_3G_iPhone.html I like the point about being able to download images from Mail or Safari.

Apple has theirs also http://www.apple.com/iphone/tips/ but it feels a lot drier and more of a manual.
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by tojoe_dotmac August 3, 2008 6:40 AM PDT
Don't let a battery ruin your life.

1. Get an extra power cord for work.

2. Get a Richard Solo spare battery.

I have both.

Me no worry.

Live and be happy.
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by hewent2paris August 11, 2008 2:17 AM PDT
While I was in Canada my 3G iPhone froze to the point that it would not even charge. Anyone come across this situation? Once battery was dead it took a charge.
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by dude7895 August 24, 2008 6:06 PM PDT
Why would anyone buy such a piece of crap?
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Kevin Ho is a San Francisco attorney and the owner of a brand new iPhone. He'll be writing about the experience for the CNET Blog Network.

He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.

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